• Michael Siegel

    Michael Siegel is a School of Public Health professor of community health sciences; he can be reached at mbsiegel@bu.edu. Profile

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There are 9 comments on POV: Gun Control, Another Place Where Race Matters

    1. The vast majority of black shooting victims are shot by other blacks.

      Or are you of the racist mindset that they are all shot by white cops?

  1. I do not like to talk about subcategories of our society, but in article it says:

    “The lack of attention paid to the killing of African Americans has led many African Americans to believe that most people do not care about urban violence in general, and about the murder of African Americans in particular.”

    Makes you wonder whether African Americans themselves care?
    Statistically it seems that black lives do not matter to the blacks. A black person is more likely to be shot by a black person.
    According to the US DOJ statistics between 1980 and 2008 93% of black victims were killed by blacks. Also homicide offending rate for blacks was almost
    8 times higher than the rate for whites (rate per capita).

    What are the reasons? Here are some more statistics that can shed some light. (See Pres. Obama’s 2008 father’s day speech)
    Child raised without a father (black or white) is:
    5x more likely to be poor and commit crime
    9x more likely to drop out of school
    20x more likely to go to jail.

    Now, 73% of black children are born into single mother households. Higher than any other population subgroup. This culture is in a big need of change.

  2. We have the scientific evidence and the good practice to cut inner city violence by 50 per cent or more. Time to guide politicians to do it. See my book providing this guide called Smarter Crime Control

  3. Honestly, MET Alum, is it possible for a commenter to ask a rational question about a study without eliciting a nasty response? In an alternate universe, your response could have been something like: “Although shootings of blacks by white police officers have received much media attention lately, data show that most black shooting victims were killed by perpetrators of the same race (the same is true for white shooting victims). Therefore, while it would have been even better to have data on both perpetrator and victim, it is unlikely that the conclusions of the study would have materially changed.” See https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls.

    Ironically, to the extent that this relationship is not well understood reinforces one of the points of the article: that most (white) Americans are not interested in or knowledgeable about the dynamics of urban violence. I would also note that while police shootings of blacks are not nearly as frequent, that does not decrease the seriousness of the issue. The police force is a publicly-supported institution that has the mission of protecting the community. Violations of this trust are of great concern.

    It would be nice if comments sections could be used to advance the discussion rather than just blow off steam, but unfortunately the anonymity afforded by this mode of communication has led to a “race to the bottom”.


  4. Orlando’s hellish massacre;
    Rampage alarmed America;
    Losing fifty lives in short time;
    A death toll like that in wartime;
    No violence may people all pray;
    Dwell in men’s hearts is love each day.
    Our God may you hear all these lines.

    Amen.

  5. The cause of all the black on black homicides is “drug related.” One gang competes with the other to make sales, often to White customers who come in from the suburbs, and to drug users within the community. “All” drugs should be legalized, like Alcohol. This will eliminate the crime associated with it.
    There isn’t a
    problem” within the Black community any more than there is a problem in other communities. Black women are the majority in college attendance (compared to Asians, Whites, Hispanics, of all sexes). Don’t believe it?

  6. There is a concerning lack of understanding about the impact that poverty, racism, classism, etc. has on individuals. I am concerned about quick judgments without the history nor knowledge of the root causes. Community violence is a direct result of poverty and the history of race relations that exist in our society. There has historically been both overt and covert systematic structures/institutions/etc that have served (and continue to serve) to keep people of color without power and ultimately without a voice. Sure there are exceptions as there are with everything. However, the pervasive and continuous class and race related issues will only prove to create greater problems.

    The playing field is not and will never be equal.

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