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There are 15 comments on The Young and the Jobless

  1. I don’t know the aero guy personally, but I was a physics major now I’m BME. But I’ve searched for jobs and been interviewed before. I gotta imagine a guy graduating at the top 1 % is awkward as hell. So like that one person says have self confidence in yourself, and the interviewer probably will too.

  2. I think the idea to use Peace Corps or TFA as a “fallback plan” is actually terrible advice. Peace Corps and TFA aren’t something you do if nothing else works out. Both are serious jobs that require a lot of time and work. I am currently applying to both. I’ve had my heart set on doing the Peace Corps since before coming to BU and TFA is another thing I’ve considered for a long time. They’re definitely very difficult jobs and are 2+ year commitments. Honestly, don’t do PC or TFA just because it’s your back up plan… you’re in it for the wrong reason and you probably won’t make it.

  3. I graduated from CFA last May with a degree in stage management, and was terrified of entering this economy with an arts degree. I was lucky enough to land a management job with a company that recruits people to teach English in Asia. I would highly recommend the experience to fellow graduates who are struggling in their job searches. Spending a year in Korea, Japan, or Taiwan will give you the chance to get international experience (looks great on your resume!) while getting paid (something you won’t get from Peace Corps like programs). The salaries are competitive (especially in Korea!) and there are benefits like vacation time, health insurance, free housing, and performance bonuses. If you’d like to know more, read up about the programs at http://www.aclipse.net.

  4. On the contrary, I do know Daniel, and he is not awkward in any way. In fact he’s exactly like all the rest of us engineers, completely socially capable, who thought they were taking the safe and admirable life path by choosing to devote so much of their time to studying over the past 4 years so that we could aspire to change the way humans interact for the better of the species, just to be hit with the harsh reality that none of the stress we endured through our 4 years here will help go towards job security in the future. But who is really at fault? The engineering career fair this past Friday (2/6/09) was 99% geared towards electrical/computer engineers (literally, there was one company that represented my major of manufacturing engineering and didn’t make 100% of their profit producing weapons of mass dectruction). I haven’t heard BU promote one single engineering company that isn’t 100% focused on the profit they make rather than how they further human life (GE, Raytheon, Pratt&Whitney, etc). All companies of this type wouldn’t hesitate to fire/lay-off employees if it meant a higher salary for the executives and a more “lean” approach to manufacturing. Now just because I’ve studied on average 10% less material (difference between a B and a C average) over the past 4 years, I have no chance of finding a job related to my major in this job economy considering those in my class with outstanding GPA’s are struggling to make ends meet after school. Maybe it’s time that BU stops worrying about their reputation, as lived through alumni, by pushing us towards heart-less, machine-like corporations and actually took the time to help us as individuals and help us recognize what direction of engineering we feel most passionate about. In turn, the school would be surprised to find out that we wouldn’t be so stressed out that we keep 2 starbucks on campus in business, eat adderall like pez, and sacrifice countless hours of our social lives (in my opinion, i don’t know about you, my social life is important in developing who I am as a person and how I react to life’s challenges). Who knows, maybe we would even learn to care about helping humans rather than making profit off of them.

  5. First off, I would like to say that I am very thankful for the education and the doors of opportunity that opened by attending BU. However, during my time at BU (07 ME graduate), I always felt that there wasn’t enough emphasis on getting internships during the sophomore and junior years. The career services department is wonderful only if the students took the initiative themselves. I know of many students that didn’t even know where the career service office was until senior year! Out of all my fellow engineering graduates of 2007, I know that the ones that had internship experience had much easier times finding employment. Internships give students the opportunity to learn and develop relationships. During tough times, these relationships can be the driving force in getting someone in the door. The school must do more in getting students into the career services offices earlier.

    Kevin J. Chui

  6. I’ve done six internships, and still haven’t had much luck yet job-wise. The problem isn’t that Career Services doesn’t encourage internships… it’s that they don’t have much to offer alumni-connection-wise. I’m not expecting to be handed a job, but it would be wonderful if I could go into CS and they could help me make some useful, if only informational, connections.

  7. In times of recession, for the economy as a whole percentages matter. For the individual, ONE GOOD JOB is the difference between recession and doing OK. In really good times, losing ONE GOOD JOB makes all the difference despie the overall economy.

    A note for engineers. If you are willing to leave the coastal cities, there are still a few fine companies like John Deere in Moline, Illinois that treat their employees like they matter and don’t live off the offensive weapons industry (Department of Defense, Defense contractors – Defense?, yeah right).

    As for job search – also a good idea to ask your parents if they know ANYONE who works in the companies you are targetting. Any personal connection is a foot in the door.

    Best of luck

  8. BU has always had a tough time placing its students. The Career Center is a waste of time – they don’t have a clue! BU does not have a jobs network from its alumni that other schools have. BC has a good reputation for its employment network. In this tough economic time, BU is not doing enough to help its students after graduation…especially for a school that charges $50,000+ per year.

  9. Another good “alternative” program to look at is anything under the Americorps label of “volunteer” positions around the US. Its basically a US version of the peace corps, and they have all sorts of jobs. I worked in conservation / forestry for six months, camping in the wilderness of Nevada and California for 8 days and cutting down big trees, but there’s a lot of different jobs. Most i’ve seen dealt with conservation / green issues or with urban youth, but check it out. They don’t pay much, in my program we got enough to pay rent and food, but that was about it, but they do put your student loan payments on hold, and on completion of the program, pay off some of them as well. Besides all that, I really thought it was an awesome experience anyway, and would have done it if i didn’t ‘need’ a job.. good luck.

  10. So I graduated in ’07 with a degree, a resume, and a sense of entitlement. I mean, I’m an intelligent, articulate college graduate, how hard could it be?
    Fast forward eight months later to me wiping down lunch tables in a museum as part of my temp job. But you know what? It was fine. Entitlement doesn’t pay the rent, and you do what you have to to do.

    Once I let go of my expectations for my post-collegiate employment and redefined success, things started to fall into place. I just took one step forward at a time and stopped worrying about how it fit into my ultimate career goals. I trusted that if I remained persistent and made informed decisions I was confident in, that it wouldn’t matter where I was headed because I’d be glad with the path I took. And it worked out. I temped at a museum and impressed them, which led the temp place to send me to a medical records place, which gave me an extra angle that I used to get a job scanning medical data that was only 30 hrs/wk, which allowed me to have an internship at a nonprofit at the same time, which then hired me to work part time after the internship was over, which allowed me to be in the running when a position opened up, which allowed me to get the job (with insurance!!) that I’m at right now. Don’t get complacent, don’t get panicked. Be thoughtful, persistent, and unfailingly positive. Good things will start to happen if you broaden your definition of what good is, release entitlement, and redefine expectations.

  11. Dear Ms. Waltz,

    As a former Peace Corps volunteer I found it offensive that your article, presumbly repeating the words of Career Strategies, mentions Peace Corps or Teach for America as “fallback plans” along with living with parents or working at Starbucks. For many of us taking a white collar office job in Boston, NY or Washington would be kin to a “fallback plan”. Like many of my peers, the “volunteer” position I took upon graduation was my first choice. Maybe some within the latest crop of graduates would be lucky not to be pressured into being herded into a corporate job.

    Could it be that our culture of striving for high paying jobs that offer very little else in return has contributed to the financial situation we find our country in at the moment? There is no better time than now to take a non-traditional job outside of the US or even a neglected corner of our country to gain some perspective on what is fueling the current economic problems of the US.

  12. As a May 2008 graduate with a BU degree in English, Magna Cum Laude, I find this article, and its comments interesting. I graduated in the top 10% of my class, with international, full-time internships in publishing & law, and have had a hell of a time finding a job. (And, simply because one graduates with honors does not indicate said person’s inability to socialize.) Ironically enough, I’ve done plenty of communications writing at this point.

    Having finally acquired my current position January 1, 2009, I’ve found there is no direct correlation between academics, internships, one’s connection with his/her interviewer, or qualifications in general. Finding a job is luck. And, depending on how picky and/or how specialized you are, it can take quite a while. Basically, it’s a shitty process that we all have to go through, and this is an extremely difficult time to be looking.

    Whether or not you have a job is neither a reflection of yourself nor your experience. Rather it’s an unlikely arrangement of factors (over which you have little control.) And, the only way to liberate yourself from the cycle of applying and interviewing is to persist. And, if you persist without desperation or anger (and, necessarilty some distraction,) you will succeed. Don’t blame BU for the job crisis.

  13. The number of the people who find themselves jobless is increasing. Moreover, the sad truth is that the incoming graduates will surely dealing with hardship in looking for a good job just like what is happening now to Daniel Huynh. It is hard to find job these days due to our troubled economy. On the other hand, have you ever heard the Blender magazine and the burdens they are facing now? There are issues that keep on arising related to Blender magazine that it will coming to an end. Well, not entirely: Blender magazine will quit printing, and will switch to an entirely online format. It looks like short term loans couldn’t help their decreased revenue enough and they are no longer able to avoid layoffs. The magazine joins numerous other journals and newspapers that will no longer be able to keep up with costs associated with printing and the number of staff required to keep a publication circulating. The number of online only publications has been exploding, and many people are predicting the death of the newspaper and the magazine within the next decade. Among the first casualties appears to be Blender magazine.

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