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There are 13 comments on Boston University Weekly COVID-19 Report: September 2 to 8

  1. I’d love more information contextualizing the data, ideally on the dashboard itself so that people accessing the data can understand it. For example, how is “recovered” determined? Are recovered and asymptomatic synonymous here? How are people who are asymptomatic but still contagious distinguished from those whose positive test results “indicate the presence of noninfectious viral genetic material that a person may continue to shed for up to 3 months”? Why was the number of inconclusive tests taken down, and are they still being counted among the number of tests given (and then categorized as negatives…)? Why hasn’t the percent positive number been adjusted to reflect number of people tested rather than number of tests given? Without this information, we’re left to interpret the data through best guesses, which doesn’t allow us to accurately understand the data ourselves or represent it to others, which will only increase confusion, paranoia, and ill will toward the institution. The publicly available data is close to useless without including these methodological details.

    I also hope there will be a mass email or announcement about this weekly report? If there was one, I missed it – I found out about this report through word of mouth.

    1. Thank you for this feedback, this was the first of these weekly reports and they will appear weekly in BU Today. Each week we will be looking for the types of things you describe, and trying to get answers, and put context around the numbers. Your feedback is valuable, so thank you. Doug Most, executive editor

      1. Oops, one more comment! Looks like the quarantined/recovered numbers ARE on the dashboard – perhaps I just didn’t see them when I checked. My question about the meaning of these numbers stands, though. Thank you!

    2. I saw your reply, Doug (and thanks for it!) but then it came down, so I’m not sure if you’re editing it or what, but I wanted to respond to say it would be fantastic if the next weekly report could help address this question in particular:

      The dashboard shows that twice as many students are recovered than currently in quarantine. How is it that so many are recovered, given the majority of the positive results were in the past 2 weeks? Does recovered mean they were already recovered when they arrived, and the positive is false because of lingering virus traces? Or something else?

      (I went to the dashboard just now to check the numbers, but the number in quarantine and recovered is now missing – I hope temporarily, because we need more context, not less data.)

      1. The dashboard now shows that something near 85% are “recovered”, so my curiosity is even more piqued! Really hope we’ll get SOME answers and information soon from the covid research team about this and other questions that have been repeatedly posed by BU community members for weeks in multiple venues, to no reply as of yet.

  2. Simply out of curiosity, are you able to expand on ‘why’ the new tests are able to be processed faster? I presume it has something to do with the prep work before actually executing the PCR test. But would love to learn more why the choice was made(but for no reason other than curiosity).

    1. I asked a staff member at the testing site about the change in swaps and they said that with the old swabs the lab workers had to “squeeze” off the testing materials from the swab, while in these new tests, the swab itself could be tested not just the snot on the swab.
      That was at least my understanding of the conversation.
      So this would mean that the extra step of getting the fluids off of the swab has been eliminated, which I assume accounts for the faster testing turn around.
      Again – my understanding of the conversation I had with a staff member there.

  3. Hi, why does the dashboard STILL have # tests instead of # people tested? Many find this to be extremely misleading and it fictitiously drives down rates. Please consult someone actually familiar with statistics including those related to public health, and in general data communication, and reform ASAP.

  4. People have been asking for weeks now for BU to provide data on the Dashboard using the appropriate denominator of number of people tested, rather than number of tests. When will this change be made? If this change is not made, data comparisons with the general population outside of the university will continue to be extremely misleading.

    This issue concerning misleading data is, I believe, the most pressing issue at the moment. But there was also a change made in the recent update to the design of the Dashboard that made the reporting of data even worse in one way. Why was the reporting of invalid tests results removed? Given that the reporting of invalid test numbers on the Dashboard was stopped at the time the testing process changed in order to speed up that process, was the decision to stop reporting invalid test numbers made because of an expectation that we would see invalid test numbers rise significantly as a result of this change to the process?

    I say more about these issues here: https://allcaution.com/2020/09/12/show-us-the-information/

  5. As other commenters have said, it would be great to know what “recovered” means in the context of the dashboard. Also, it would be great to know why the dashboard includes data on cases out of total tests instead of persons tested.

  6. Agree with those questioning testing reports/results. Is anyone concerned about the impacts on mental health on students?This virus is not going anywhere for awhile. We need to learn to live with this, safely via masks and hand washing and limiting, not eliminating social circles. I travel in and out of multiple hospitals and am safe and covid-free. You would be better adopting technology that detect masks and thermal/temp upon entry into buildings and continue with daily survey. Start offering free flu shots (and technically with everyone wearing masks, we should minimize flu’s impact,too). Spread facts,not incite hysteria. Time to pivot strategies.

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